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Movie REQ: Halloween 2 (2009)

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Holy hell, what a mess of a movie. Zombie's first Halloween was decent enough for what it was (despite somehow managing to make Michael Myers less scary), but H2 was offensively bad.
My thoughts exactly. I really liked the first half of Zombie's first Halloween flick, the stuff with young Michael and Dr. Loomis, and I thought Sheri Moon Zombie was surprisingly believable (and much less annoying than her previous films). I would have actually preferred more young Michael stuff over the second half, which, while it was effective enough, was essentially Carpenter's original boiled down to forty five minutes (or however long it was).

But IMO, his H2 I was atrocious. Just a mean, ugly, repulsive, depressing movie without a single saving grace. The only sympathetic character in the whole movie was the Sheriff, and that was more thanks to Brad Dourif than the writing. Poor Danielle Harris suffered the exact same indignity as she did in the previous one (seriously, her attack scenes in each were practically identical). Dr. Loomis was a complete twat. And emo Laurie Strode was so grating this time around that I found myself actually WANTING her to die -- not a good sign considering she's the heroine of the film and the one character you're supposed to want to see survive. And it was a massive mistake, having Michael with half his mask rotted away. The entire mystique and menace of The Shape is that blank, expressionless mask, which acts as both a visual indication of the soulless, emotionless entity beneath and as a type of blank screen for viewers to project their own personal boogey men. And what was with Michael's hallucinations involving his mother and the white horse? Honestly, Rob Zombie, what the living f**k were you thinking???

Ick. Ugh. Blech. Bad movie.
 
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Well, you wouldn't be saying that if Christopher Lee hadn't turned down the role of Dr. Loomis.
Hahaha. My real problem with original Halloween is - there's no real protagonist until break to Act Three, when Laurie decides to check out the house across the street. It's just boring in terms of script.
 
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My thoughts exactly. I really liked the first half of Zombie's first Halloween flick, the stuff with young Michael and Dr. Loomis, and I thought Sheri Moon Zombie was surprisingly believable (and much less annoying than her previous films). I would have actually preferred more young Michael stuff over the second half, which, while it was effective enough, was essentially Carpenter's original boiled down to forty five minutes (or however long it was).

But IMO, his H2 I was atrocious. Just a mean, ugly, repulsive, depressing movie without a single saving grace. The only sympathetic character in the whole movie was the Sheriff, and that was more thanks to Brad Dourif than the writing. Poor Danielle Harris suffered the exact same indignity as she did in the previous one (seriously, her attack scenes in each were practically identical). Dr. Loomis was a complete twat. And emo Laurie Strode was so grating this time around that I found myself actually WANTING her to die -- not a good sign considering she's the heroine of the film and the one character you're supposed to want to see survive. And it was a massive mistake, having Michael with half his mask rotted away. The entire mystique and menace of The Shape is that blank, expressionless mask, which acts as both a visual indication of the soulless, emotionless entity beneath and as a type of blank screen for viewers to project their own personal boogey men. And what was with Michael's hallucinations involving his mother and the white horse? Honestly, Rob Zombie, what the living f**k were you thinking???

Ick. Ugh. Blech. Bad movie.
I've heard that Strode is a much different character in the theatrical cut. She's more over the trauma instead of still going all crazy. And the young Meyers stuff from the first one is the reason I hated it, haha. I like Meyers better when we don't know why he kills. He's scarier without a reason.
 
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[QUOTE="Xxoxia, post: 55795, And the young Meyers stuff from the first one is the reason I hated it, haha. I like Meyers better when we don't know why he kills. He's scarier without a reason.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Yes. Yes.
 
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And the young Meyers stuff from the first one is the reason I hated it, haha. I like Meyers better when we don't know why he kills. He's scarier without a reason.
Precisely. It's as though Rob Zombie didn't understand the original film at all, which goes a long way towards explaining why both of his Halloweens are awful.
 
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I agree, The Shape is scarier without a reason (Carpenter's Halloween is in fact one of my top two favorite horror films, right behind the original Dawn of the Dead). But I did like the first half of Zombie's remake and thought it was ridiculously effective. I can take or leave the second half, which as I mentioned above was basically Carpenter's Halloween condensed to half the running time, but I was totally caught up in the first half's story of a troubled young boy and the determined therapist struggling to save the boy from himself. Hell, cut that first half off, change the title and the character name and its own it would be a strong little psycho-chiller.
 
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