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Convoy - Matt Holloway and Art Marcum, June 24, 2005

I can't figure out how the hell was this supposed to be a remake of Peckinpah's original, because the only thing that's similar is that this script also includes convoy of trucks who have to deal with lot of shit on their way. But, i am not saying that this script is bad or anything, because it sure as hell isn't, and instead it was a very fun read. Which was a double surprise, because i am fan of original film, and considering Holloway and Marcum's other works, i was surprised i liked this as much as i did.

Only things that should be changed is the title and maybe few small things in the script (who the hell eats a sandwich they just found on the road, Michelle is too much of a bitch, maybe tone down typical evil main boss cliche etc...), and this would have been a pretty good action movie. I think John Singleton (who was supposed to direct this) would have been good choice for director. Maybe some of his films weren't great as his earlier, more dramatic work, but he did have a great eye for action if you look at Shaft, 2 Fast 2 Furious or Four Brothers.

Some action moments even reminded me on action scenes from Road Warrior, which is always a good thing, and so were the good soundtrack choices which i always felt helps a lot when reading the script, and stuff like Nightrain by Guns & Roses or Rooster by Alice In Chains really fits this script.
 
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Convoy - Matt Holloway and Art Marcum, June 24, 2005

I can't figure out how the hell was this supposed to be a remake of Peckinpah's original, because the only thing that's similar is that this script also includes convoy of trucks who have to deal with lot of shit on their way. But, i am not saying that this script is bad or anything, because it sure as hell isn't, and instead it was a very fun read. Which was a double surprise, because i am fan of original film, and considering Holloway and Marcum's other works, i was surprised i liked this as much as i did.

Only things that should be changed is the title and maybe few small things in the script (who the hell eats a sandwich they just found on the road, Michelle is too much of a bitch, maybe tone down typical evil main boss cliche etc...), and this would have been a pretty good action movie. I think John Singleton (who was supposed to direct this) would have been good choice for director. Maybe some of his films weren't great as his earlier, more dramatic work, but he did have a great eye for action if you look at Shaft, 2 Fast 2 Furious or Four Brothers.

Some action moments even reminded me on action scenes from Road Warrior, which is always a good thing, and so were the good soundtrack choices which i always felt helps a lot when reading the script, and stuff like Nightrain by Guns & Roses or Rooster by Alice In Chains really fits this script.
I quite liked Marcum and Holloway's Highlander draft up until the stupid ending. I might have to read Convoy.

Is it worse than Halloween: Ressurection or at least a little better?
Uh... hard to say? They're both awful in very distinct ways.
 
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Sgt. Rock, by Brian Helgeland
This was mostly a good script, and the big ending sequence with the tanks in the village was very good. However, up until the final third or so, this is just the Peoples draft changed a bit, with the setting shifted to Belgium and a few names and scenes changed around. That made it very tedious to read, as every draft up to this point has drawn heavily on what Peoples was doing. Joel Silver must have been very intent on making that script in one form or another. Also, all of these drafts later and I'm still a bit baffled by the whole ghost medic subplot. Oh, and Helgeland mispells "mutherfucker" several times. How the **** do you misspell motherfucker? XD
 
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Ghost medic and naked wife halucinations aside (which were also in earlier drafts), i thought Helgeland's draft was just as good as Peoples and Milius drafts. I didn't had much problems with how similar it was to those scripts, because i'd rather prefer something like this than the script which was changed even more only to turn out to be not that good, like De Souza's draft (in my opinion).
 
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The Creature from the Black Lagoon, by Bill Phillips - May 4, 1992 draft
This is a very good update of the original movie. The underwater pyramids were a great touch, expanding on the Creature's mythology without going overboard. The characters weren't too bad, and some of them were pretty easy to assign members of the Carpenter's ensemble to. Jake is totally Peter Jason, for instance. And I have to say, the ending really grew on me from the last time I read it. I do have to say, though, that Cirri showing up on the boat at complete random feels like a scene is missing, and Pete Hazard could have been played as a more serious threat, as opposed to the silly crazy man who says goofy things to himself.
 
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The Creature from the Black Lagoon, by Bill Phillips - May 4, 1992 draft
This is a very good update of the original movie. The underwater pyramids were a great touch, expanding on the Creature's mythology without going overboard. The characters weren't too bad, and some of them were pretty easy to assign members of the Carpenter's ensemble to. Jake is totally Peter Jason, for instance. And I have to say, the ending really grew on me from the last time I read it. I do have to say, though, that Cirri showing up on the boat at complete random feels like a scene is missing, and Pete Hazard could have been played as a more serious threat, as opposed to the silly crazy man who says goofy things to himself.
I always thought of Sam Neill as Jake.
Some other casting I would like to see if it got made:
John Stockwell: Abel
Elisabeth Shue: Cirri
Adrienne Barbeau: Mary.

I’m not sure about Pete, I was somewhat suggesting Kurt.
 
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The Creature from the Black Lagoon, by Bill Phillips - May 8th, 1992 draft
This draft is pretty much the same, with minor tweaks to the descriptions and dialogue here and there. The two major changes are that Pete's dialogue is a lot more aggressive, and the Creature is kept slightly more in the dark before its big reveal in the water ballet scene. It's also described in much more detail. One big improvement is that the constant references to the Creature having soft eyes and being a graceful swimmer have been severely trimmed down, making the script a bit less annoying in places.

I always thought of Sam Neill as Jake.
Some other casting I would like to see if it got made:
John Stockwell: Abel
Elisabeth Shue: Cirri
Adrienne Barbeau: Mary.

I’m not sure about Pete, I was somewhat suggesting Kurt.
The only problem with Kurt playing Pete is that I don't know if he could fake a good enough Australian accent.
 
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The Creature from the Black Lagoon, by Bill Phillips - May 8th, 1992 draft
This draft is pretty much the same, with minor tweaks to the descriptions and dialogue here and there. The two major changes are that Pete's dialogue is a lot more aggressive, and the Creature is kept slightly more in the dark before its big reveal in the water ballet scene. It's also described in much more detail. One big improvement is that the constant references to the Creature having soft eyes and being a graceful swimmer have been severely trimmed down, making the script a bit less annoying in places.



The only problem with Kurt playing Pete is that I don't know if he could fake a good enough Australian accent.
That could be a problem, I was thinking of the other one than Kurt is John Noble.
 
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The Legend of Conan, by Will Beall - Third Studio Draft

Can't share, sorry.

Most of this works. I like how Conan aging is handled. I like that Max von Sydow is given a bigger role this time around. Thugra Khan is a pretty good bad guy. The action is great. The supporting characters aren't anything amazing, but they work fine. However, there are a handful of niggling issues that really bring it down, including a continuity error/blatant retcon that sticks out like a sore thumb. And the sequel hook is so unnecessary that it feels like it was thrown in at the last minute. And the thing is, the problems are very easily fixed by altering some dialogue and scene descriptions. Hell, I could do it with a little work. XD
 
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The Northmen, by John Milius
(Another no share, sorry)

This was pretty excellent on the whole. A stirring, blood pumping story of Vikings and ass kicking, with some interesting context built around the coming of Christianity, and the idea of the world ending in the year 1000. It also brings in historical figures Erik the Red and Leif Erikson, albeit with little resemblance to the actual history. It's a shame Morgan Creek bailed on this when they couldn't get the cast they wanted, but then again, knowing their track record, they'd probably have cut the movie apart and reshot the ending. XD
 
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It more or less happened to him with Orion on Farewell to the King. I don't think either the US or European edits were his preferred version.
Heck, I remember watching the Milius documentary, with Milius mentioning blowing up Jeffrey Katzenberg’s car. I wouldn’t suppose he would go that far with on Creek with James G. Robinson’s car.
 
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The Northmen, by John Milius
(Another no share, sorry)

This was pretty excellent on the whole. A stirring, blood pumping story of Vikings and ass kicking, with some interesting context built around the coming of Christianity, and the idea of the world ending in the year 1000. It also brings in historical figures Erik the Red and Leif Erikson, albeit with little resemblance to the actual history. It's a shame Morgan Creek bailed on this when they couldn't get the cast they wanted, but then again, knowing their track record, they'd probably have cut the movie apart and reshot the ending. XD
By any chance have you read an earlier draft of the script by Randall McCormick? It's marked as a first revision, so I'm curious what changes had been made when Milius became involved. I've started reading it, but haven't gotten very far into yet, although the general plot seems accurate to what I've heard of Milius' draft.
 
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By any chance have you read an earlier draft of the script by Randall McCormick? It's marked as a first revision, so I'm curious what changes had been made when Milius became involved. I've started reading it, but haven't gotten very far into yet, although the general plot seems accurate to what I've heard of Milius' draft.
Nah, I only have the Milius version.
 
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Suspiria, by David Gordon Green and Chris Gebert
The first 60 pages of this were tough to get through for me, consisting of a lot of scenes from the original movie replayed in a slightly different fashion, interspersed with a few new ideas. The last 30 were a lot better, and it goes ******* nuts in the finale, even more than the original film did. I mean, Christ, Suzy hacks off Helena Markos' head and then tosses it into a fire. That's hard core. XD
 
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Resident Evil, by George Romero
This is a solid enough adaptation of the first game, and most of the changes work pretty well. I don't mind Chris not being part of the team, and restructuring everything to be part of the labs under the mansion is handled very well. And it's cool seeing a lot of the characters and the bulk of the monsters from the game show up, especially the Tyrant at the end... minus Wesker calling it "Mr. T", that is. XD

While making Chris a Native American doesn't bother me at all, the sheer amount of silly crap with him being a magical Super Indian who's good at everything because he's in touch with nature is a bit much, and it also steers into the preachy stuff that slightly hurts Land of the Dead for me. The dialogue is pretty bad for the most part, too, with the meta reference to Night of the Living Dead and the incredibly cringey title drop standing out. I also didn't really much care for Ada Wong showing up as basically a different character near the end, or the self destruct making such a huge explosion that even Michael Bay would want it toned down. XD

It's still better than pretty much anything Anderson did with his movies, though, not helped by the fact that he straight up stole both the laser hallway and the Michelle Rodriguez character from this script. I'm also wondering if Capcom nicked the idea of a Dr. Marcus creating the T-virus from Romero, since Resident Evil Zero didn't come out for another four years.

Overall, not bad, and mostly in need of a thorough dialogue polish.
 
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Exactly. It's a solid action horror and video game adaptation script which unfortunately suffers from bad dialogue and IMO, some (but not all) plot and character changes, and i'm not just talking about Chris being Indian. But hell, i'd take this dialogue over just about any dialogue in original '96 video game, thankfully Romero didn't went and used it in his script. And considering similar problems Alan McElroy's script was said to have, it wouldn't surprise me if he did went and used some of it in his script.

Ada Wong being a scientist and Raccoon City destruction at the end also don't really make much sense, considering the plot and setting of Resident Evil 2. That game came out in January of '98, Romero got involved in the movie project in May after McElroy left, and he wrote his first draft in October, so he would have known about second game and what happens in it. My guess would be that he never went beyond researching the first game, but it's more likely that studio and producers just weren't even thinking about possible sequel while scripts for first film were still in development. As far as i know there was a point in time between 1998 and 2000 where they did want to go straight to city outbreak storyline for the film which lead to one or more scripts for this version (including rumored "Kevin Williamson" script) before going back to mansion storyline and once again going through one or more scripts before they eventually hired Anderson to write and direct the film. But who knows, maybe Romero did found out more about RE 2 while writing later drafts and changed those parts along with everything else he changed (Chris being STARS member, less monsters etc).
 
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Well yeah, there's nothing quite as bad as "I have THIS!" or "WHAT A MANSION!" And I'm curious as to what Romero's later drafts looked like. If Chris was back to being a STARS member, then the whole thing would have to be restructured to a certain degree.
 
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